involved in news of the world, and many have not been named or implicated. then you have the question, who paid tens of thousands of dollars to get stories from the police. that, by the way, is illegal, as is hacking into phones and presumably that's not a decision made by the reporter, it's made by the business side. we haven't heard who those people are. you'll see many more apples falling from this tree. >> and it has engulfed the british police, the metropolitan police. you said there will be many more apples falling, what will this mean for, let's say james murdoch, his son and executive? >> he has been in charge for the last several years of news corps international, newspapers in england. reportingly he's signing off on budgets. he's next in line there. he's got to be worried, as his dad has to be worried about james, who, up to now, had a sterling reputation, on the other hand, he made claims that this was the end of it.